I have already painted with acrylic, and then sprayed my painting with this Mirror Effect spray paint. With the ones I did acrylic over oils. Put down some darker color. on Jul 10, 2019. Slasher - 8”x10” painting by me! I can tell you I have used spray paint on a canvas and then used acrylics on top. I am assuming this is a problem when the oil is not properly cured. 2K epoxy paints can be used to paint materials made of many plastics. It is generally suggested that acrylics do not fair well on top of oils. Well. Is there some sort of medium I can coat my canvas with to make sure my next layers adhere correctly? My choice is a strong suggestion towards removing ALL the rust before painting it. Just need to paint my dash, but want a good job. Thanks for the advice! Mine were both relatively thinner layers. and join one of thousands of communities. Do I need to take it to a paint shop for this small area? They can be used on metals that are rusty, provided you prepare the surface so the primer or paint properly adheres to it. The reason is oil paint only dries by oxidation, if you ever leave it out on a pallet the inside never dries just forms a crust. Rust-Oleum® Craft & Hobby Acrylic Glitter Burst Paint adds sparkle and shimmer to craft and decorative surfaces. You could put million dollar paint on as a top coat but if the base coat fails it'll just be million dollar flakes of paint. So I did that. Encourage one another! Any help, tips or ideas for this newbie? [–]Daannii 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children). When you spray lacquer over a solvent-based acrylic finish, they combine to form a hybrid film, even if the acrylic is pigmented to form a paint. I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to painting. This is why they recommend waiting a year or so before putting a protective lacor over paintings. Can I paint acrylic over rustoleum? Can you put oil-based paint over water-based paint? Yes. But most of all, you can get a quart for under $5 at any hardware store, whereas automotive paint can be 20-50 times that much. This self-priming acrylic paint will refresh your concrete floors in just one coat. And the base evaporates very fast. I also used a drying medium in the oils to make them dry faster. Just finished :-). Things that can cause the new paint to fail include using latex paint that is not 100 percent acrylic and not preparing the wall properly. It'll cost a bit more but it's more likely to be done right. Remember when you apply a primer and then want to paint over it, you’re essentially trapping that primer product in with the top coats of paint. (Yeah, I know...). Helpful. Compare Rustoleum Aerosol Paint - Specialty Farm and Implement Enamel, Ferguson Red 539624 Select another one or two products to compare. I have an air compressor, but no paint gun or air/water/oil seperator and virtually no experience mixing and shooting primer. Please post digital works in /r/DigitalPainting. Achieve a smooth, professional finish—with low VOCs—using Rust-Oleum Sierra Performance™ Beyond™ Acrylic Enamel. Then oil. But like I said. So no concerns if it was properly dry. My first go at spray painting. That stuff is too stinky/hazardous to sit next and paint on until it dries. The rust inhibitive formulation also makes it an ideal choice for direct application to steel. I used black semi-gloss rustoleum thinned with mineral spirits and put it on with a brush. That would be best. you can but the rustolium primer wont stop rust its not a water seal i know i tryed it on a car that was parked outside i was doing the body work and driving it and would primer it it always had rust coming threw so right before we painted it we spent a day wet sanding it then put epoxy 2 part primer then a primer sealer then the enamel that was 5 years ago and no rust so far so if you do it that way you will need to respray the areas that start rusting every week would be better to prime it and keep it under a tarp but still resand and reprime when you do paint it. Then go to town with your acrylics. On the areas that are back to bare galvanised metal, prime first with Rust-Oleum 3302 CombiPrimer Adhesion, after 45mins apply 1 coat of Rust-Oleum CombiColor in your chosen colour and finish to the full door surface (including over existing well adhered paint). I'd say if you can make something on the side. Karl Blair Dickinson. Posts aimed specifically at solicitation will be removed. I've read that all the paint will have to be stripped off or urethane paint will lift. You could put million dollar paint on as a top coat but if the base coat fails it'll just be million dollar flakes of paint. Having said that, I've never heard anything bad about rustoleum primer failing when applied to a properly prepared surface but you need to be aware of the possibility. Spray paint does not need months like oil paints. After the rustoleum has cured i dont see a problem .the experts will have more info on this . www.rustoleum.com. You need to have a good base coat. The glittering effect intensifies with multiple layer application. COVID-19 Update to Customers I know it's probably not what you want to hear but if you're not comfortable with doing it yourself, knowing you may not be happy with the results, I'd take it to a pro. It can take up to three years for and oil painting to be fully dry. I let it dry for 2-3 days in a well ventilated area. It'd been drying for over a week and it was a thin layer, so I'm gonna go for it. You can easily do a variety of exciting projects when it comes to using acrylic paint on metal. yes you can. Instagram Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall. It doesn't surprise me that the architectural acrylic resin based paint performs similarly to the leather edging acrylic paint. If there's a surface that needs to be protected or a look that needs to be transformed Rust-Oleum has a coating. The long answer is any topcoat is only as good as the base coat it covers. Elizabeth Scott. But it’s easy to give an old metal gate or any other metal decorations you have around the house a face-lift. Reply. Do you need to Prime PVC before painting? Anyone know if I can use Acrylic paints over a base done in Latex? I also used a drying medium in the oils to make them dry faster. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=296770, Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4. Get Rust-Oleum updates on your Facebook wall. This subreddit is intended for images and discussions related to artwork. If you'd like a piece identified, please use /r/whatisthispainting. I would generally avoid it. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Can I paint it on exterior bare T111 siding. I have no idea what sort of thickness you have going on. So why Rustoleum? Ideal Use If your submission isn't showing up in the 'new' section a few minutes after posting, message the moderators so we can fish it out of the spam filter. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Specifically the paint seems to not be sticking to the primer at all, preferring to rub right back off … This will let me install the interior for now. Rust-Oleum's Universal Acrylic Primer is specifically formulated for application to a variety of surfaces that include metal, wood, concrete, plaster, wallboard, hardboard, glass, and tile. Your paint job will only be as good as what is under it. Then oil again. Okay, this may be a little self serving because I'm the Zero Rust guy, but I'll make a suggestion that I know will fit what you need to do and marry that solution to the equipment you have. But it's the performance over a period of time that separates makeshift applications from designed applications. [–]PaintPaintPaintAddict 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). As for when I put acrylics over spray paint: firstly This was a homemade canvas so I primed with gesso (basically white acrylic). You must give the undercoat plenty of time to cure for the best result. Check in for status! I have some wood scraps that I want to tole paint on for exterior use. Acrylic latex paint can be used over oil-based paint, but it requires additional preparation according to Pittsburgh Paints. TIA :-) (Thanks in advance) Hi, All I have is a couple partial and a full can of interior oil based Kilz. Acrylics on canvas. Rust-Oleum® Specialty Textured Paint For Plastic Spray revitalizes plastic in one step. I waited a long time to make sure the oil was properly dry. Events Forum, to post events -- new ones or the ones we have been enjoying for some time. That's the trouble with paint, it seems to look and perform perfectly at immediate glance. By following our simple steps, you can give any rusted or fading metal objects a new lease of life. You can paint acrylic on nearly any surface if you allow the primer plenty of time to cure. Follow us on YouTube Or visit us on YouTube now. Like cracks. Baking paint onto clay or ceramic decreases the curing time of the object. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 20857 on r2-app-06530133ba459ef3c at 2021-01-06 10:17:43.877152+00:00 running 15b6a67 country code: AR. If it was lacquer you can put enamel or lacquer over it but the first paint must be completely cured… like 2 months. ... That would be the reverse, you could paint acrylic enamel over lacquer, not lacquer over enamel Dick Stevens, Jul 31, 2019. For sales and requests, please use /r/ArtStore or /r/ArtisanGifts, or see the Commissions & Sales portion of the sidebar. See how it does. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: /r/painting is a place for painters of reddit to share their work with fellow artists. If you feel daring, I'd say. While this is an art subreddit, our posts still appear to users not subscribed to /r/painting. The PO had shot the exterior with a really bad paint job (which will need to be removed later) with lots of overspray onto the dash and interior doors. Can I put acrylic paint over KILZ oil based primer? Before you paint, take the time to prepare your surface properly. Sierra Performance - Beyond Acrylic Enamel. Well, on the internet you can find people who rolled it on, and the cars look pretty good. We'll see what happens after winter to see if the cold will affect it. Look to see what's been cancelled or postponed. My painting professor made it seem like I was screwed, and that acrylic can never EVER go on top of oil-based paints, including spray paints. Let it dry a few days. Wanted a "space" look that is easy to achieve with spray paint. In fact, there are many ways to paint stained wood and the method you choose should depend on the type of stain used, the state of the wood, and whether or not you’re painting … I've had a painting where I used acrylics. Not the most difficult of paintings, but I am pretty happy with how it turned out. “Paint” and “spray paint” are too ambiguous. You can paint over varnished wood as long as you use the right materials and painting process. (Even on a piece of cardboard) Use the same basic layers. Spray paint surface preparation preparation is extremely important and is the best predictor of how long your new paint finish will last. I have a 1951 Ford F1 that the previous owner painted with rustoleum paint. Follow us on Instagram Or visit us on Instagram now Connect with us on LinkedIn. What are my options for primer then? For posts relating to home or wall painting, please use /r/HomeImprovement or /r/DIY. The best paint to use is a water-based acrylic one. A primer is only needed if you want the paint manufacturer's warranty. Then acrylics. Make sure every layer is dry before applying the next one. Yes, you can spray paint over rust. Because then you are putting a "plastic" paint on a material that can't properly dry out, bad things happen. Impulsive painting with watercolors on yupo paper ! You can put oil-based paint over any type of paint including water-based paint. The Latex is exterior flat house paint. I wouldn't do it. Great for floors, walkways, decks, etc. [–]ImaSleepingBiscuit[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child). I painted over the lining in my tub this spring and so far its held up. Here are a few examples of projects you can do with acrylic painting on metal: Desks. I think that is primarily a concern because artist oil paints take a really really long time to properly dry. Jump over to the Then let that dry. Is it possible to go back on top of the spray with acrylic, or will the water-based paint not adhere to the oil-based paint? Even discoloration. Put down some darker color. This water-based formula contains low VOCs, low HAPs1 and low solvent odor and is ideal for schools, cafeterias and settings where paint fumes are an issue. You can bake acrylic paint in the oven safely and it will give your project the most amazing finish. After the coating is completely dry you can paint over with acrylic paint. Spray paint probably isn't as bad, but make sure it isn't over thick paint. The long answer is any topcoat is only as good as the base coat it covers. It is a commonly held belief that oil-based paints don’t mix well with other types of paints; however, at the same time, it is also said that it is perfectly okay to use latex paint over an oil-based primer. Ideal for wood, paper mache, terra cotta and most porous surfaces as well as ceramic bisque and glass. Not ready for exterior paint yet (still working on the mechanical side of things) but the interior is gutted. “Sweet, this means it can be done! Can be applied over a base colour. 5600 protects the concrete floors from dusting, water damage, staining and mildew and can be applied over previously coated surfaces. For posting an established artist's work, please use /r/art or /r/paintings. It's generally considered okay to put oils over acrylics, just not the other way. And then try it out. Here is my thoughts. It's thin. Then let that dry. With the ones I did acrylic over oils. Definately a case of a barrier coat first. A gift I made for my doctor. From Hanalei Bay, a place I hope to go back to someday. To help the paint to bond to it, sand it fairly well wit sand pads/paper or with liquid sander, or both..., or just use oil paint. I did an acrylic paint pour and sealed it with Rust-Oleum 2X. After priming with a Rust-oleum 2x UltraCover Spray Paint + Primer (Aluminium), I've found that my Tamiya acrylic color paints (X-1 Black and X-2 White) are not applying well at all. Apply latex primer over the enamel paint to bond the surface on couple thin layers. Down the road, once I have decided on a color, I will remove the interior and windows and have the truck interior painted the same as the exterior. As for when I put acrylics over spray paint: firstly This was a homemade canvas so I primed with gesso (basically white acrylic). As a courtesy to your fellow reddit users, please mark nudity and other sensitive material as NSFW by clicking the link under the post title. I was wondering if I could prolong the rustoleum paint job life longer than an 80's dodge factory blue paint job, with the addition of a clear coat. Concrete & Garage Floor Paint can be used on garage floors, patios and basement floors. I put down about 2 coats and so far no peeling or chipping. Do what you want, but i don't think it will hold up. Please specify how frequently you paint with user flair. Rustoleum manufacturers paint and primer and offers a product line specifically for covering and protecting metal surfaces. Please classify new posts with the appropriate link flair. Peeling and the like. I switched it up and did some ocean, and I’m so excited how the colors turned out!! 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